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In Search of  Nahra - Nohra - Nuhra  Roots

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Joseph [mailto: info (at) shongololotours (dot) co (dot) za ]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:30 AM
To: anwar
Subject: Re: Shweir Guestbook

Dear Anwar,

My grandfather - Seba Nahra - came from Dour El Shweir. He died in Durban, South Africa in 1945 at the age of 74 - therefore he must have been born in Dour El Shweir in approximately 1871. He belonged to the Greek Orthodox or Syrian Orthodox Church.

Initially he (and his brother) immigrated to Australia in the 1890s (?)  He married there and had a daughter named Melbina. She (and her mother) might have returned to Lebanon - but of this, I am totally unsure and I do not even know the name of his first wife.

In the early 1900s - I believe between 1903 and 1907 he moved to South Africa and married my grandmother Annie Rouanna (Peters). At some stage (upon arrival ?) he changed his surname to Joseph.

I have been told that his brother Alexander (?) and his wife Rose/Rosie/Rosalie (?) moved to the USA from South Africa in the 1920s(?).

The last known address of him we have - was Governor Nichols Drive, New Orleans - but this was in the 1920s/1930s(?)

There is an old family story that another Nahra brother, George (?) immigrated to South America.

I know that a distant cousin of mine - Koumi Nahra - was living in Beirut until quite recently. I have been told that he might have moved to Australia.

I would greatly appreciate any information - no matter how vague - regarding the Nahra family.

Further it is my intention to visit Dour El Shweir in the future to study birth records/archives etc. Any information in this regard would also be greatly appreciated. Please help me in my search.

Warm regards from South Africa,

Mark Joseph (Nahra)

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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:30 PM
To: 'Mark Joseph'
Cc: Riad Khunieser ; Nadia Benab ; G Matar; Ghassan Zghaib ; Joseph Nohra
Subject: RE: Shweir Guestbook -In Search of Nohra - Nuhra Roots

Hello Mark and welcome to your hometown website.  

 

I will copy several people who may be able to connect more pieces to the puzzle which we hope it will lead to connecting with your distant cousins.

 

I will also post this on the BB and the Family tree web page.

 

Here are some links to Nohra - Nuhra: 

 

http://www.shweir.com/anwar_volleyball.htm

http://www.shweir.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=475

I see that Ghassan beat me to it... :)

Attention: Hobeika, Moujais, Abou Samra, Ghosn, Haddad, Nohra and Benab families, check this link to see related family tree - courtesy of Nadia Benab & Hashem Hashem:  http://marjeyoun.net/HM-Main.html   

 

http://www.shweir.com/family_tree_2.htm

 

Best regards,

 

Anwar

 

Morie - Mirry - Merrey - Meri3y - Branch of Moujaes Family
Amazing coincidences

An intersting entry in the GuestBook
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Ghassan Zghaib
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PostPosted: 15 May 2008 05:46 pm    Post subject: An intersting entry in the GuestBook Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Following is an entry written by Laura Morie:

My grandfather Fred Morie, emigrated ultimately to Alberta in the early 1900's from Shweir, they first landed in Ellis Island (US) and then travelled to St. John's in New Brunswick, Canada and then made their way to Edmonton, Alberta.. The family ended up with different last names because of the language difficulties, so some are Murray, some are Morie. They left behind their beloved Shweir and I was very delighted to find you on the web. I grew up listening to stories my Grandfather told be at bedtime. I will continue to visit your very interesting pages. Many thanks, Laura
15 May 2008 - Alberta, Canada
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PostPosted: 15 May 2008 05:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Laura,

Murray and Morie sound like Merrey which is a branch of the Moujaes family.
I hope Abu Gabriella and Gilbert (Khalil Merrey's sons) can shed a bit of light on your granfather's origin.
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PostPosted: 15 May 2008 06:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Ghassan,

I am almost certain that you are right. Morie is Mir3ee. Let me tell you this eerie story that happened to me. As you know, I am in the jewelry business. About fifteen years go this elderly Canadian woman (eightyish) by the name of Morie came to the store with a younger lady that lived down here in Houston. To make the story short, the old lady was curious about my accent and asked me from where I came from. I told her that I was from Lebanon.

To my surprise, the woman told me that her parents were Lebanese also. To my amazement, she told me that her father came from a little town in Lebanon called Shweir. She was floored when I told that that Shweir was my birth place as well as my hometown. She also told me that her nephew had just returned from there and he had met the childern of his uncle George Mir3ee. George is the grandfather of Gabriel and Toni! Toni's daddy Khalil is like a brother to me.

The only thing that I remember about the old lady was that she told me she lived in a city north of Calgary and that here family was in the furniture business. I hope this rings a bell with Laura.

Laura welcome to the web page of your ancestors.
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PostPosted: 16 May 2008 08:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Amazing coincidences... I just alerted Laura to these new discoveries and to the link to this post. We look forward to welcome Laura and her family. I will also put a copy on the Family Tree 2 web page.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Morie [mailto: balesl (at) shaw (dot) ca]
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Shweir Guestbook

That is great news, the world really is a small place indeed. Shweir must be very special; where people make such an effort to stay in touch where ever they may be. Fifteen years ago that would have been Olga, Georges daughter (they lived in Hanna, Alberta (just north of Calgary) she had a daughter, Marilyn  that lived in the United States. George was my grandfather's brother. I think that my grandfather Fred and his brother John came over first and then his sister Mary,  brother George and one other ( this one died )  followed, including their mother. I believe my great-grandfather stayed in Shweir.

So my grandfather Fred Sr., had three children, Noweta, John (Jack) and Fred Jr. Fred Jr.was my dad, he passed away in 2001.Noweta( daughter she is still living and is 83 ) had no children, Jack (who passed away in 1999) had 8 children, 7 are still alive, and my dad had 2 girls. I am fascinated and want to find out everything that I can..  Mary (my grandfather's sister still has two daughters twins, that are 95 years old and living in Edmonton, George has at least one son still alive named Marshall. I would like to know what transpired with my great-grandfather and the family that stayed in Shweir.. To that end I am grateful and thrilled for your assistance.  I have attached a picture, the hair color is to keep the gray away.

Cheers for now.

Laura

 

Saliba /Saleeby Web site
A great web site for the Saliba / Saleeby Family - Mostly in/from Btighreen
Also check out Family history, it goes back to the Crusaders...
http://www.saleeby-saliba.org/Default.htm

 

Beverly Ann Coleman (Weber) | 
My maternal grandmother Leeza Shalita Ackle, migrated to the USA in the late 1800's through Ellis Island, NY.as a teenager. She being a Maronite Catholic, I'm wondering how I could find a baptismal record since Dhour Shweir was her birthplace. Can you assist me in finding the church she might have been a member of? Thank you
24 January 2008 - Texas
Shweir.com Note: -  Hello Beverly Ann and Welcome to your grandma's town web site.

I have digital photos of about 60 - 70 % of the church records that go back to about early to mid 1800s. I am hoping to put them in a searchable data base, but so far, I have not found the key persons to do make that transformation. I do not have the Maronite church records yet. Do you know your grandma's parents names? was her maiden name Shallita? Did she become Maronite by marriage? I will post your inquiry on the Family Tree 2 web page, just in case one of our readers has more info than I. Good luck. Anwar

If anyone has more info or suggestions for Beverly Ann to find her roots, please contact her at her email which is posted in code to minimize spam:   bacoleman (at) suddenlink (dot) net 

 

Lets make May: Family Awareness Month
The best gift you can give your family is their roots, history... Create and/or expand your Family Tree

Family Awareness Month
Summer 2007 project opportunity:  $1,000 - $2,000
Build Shweir Family & Church Records data base in Excel

You will be amazed how many people from around the world are searching for their roots, family and heritage connections.  Read some of the posts on the Guest book and Bulletin Board.... 

Attention: Hobeika, Moujais, Abou Samra, Ghosn, Haddad, Nohra and Benab families, check this link to see related family tree - courtesy of Nadia Benab & Hashem Hashem:  http://marjeyoun.net/HM-Main.html 

Brazilian Shweir Family Connections-  Check these communities leading to Shweir:
Festa Chueire - Familia Chueire - Familia Choueri - Shuery, Choueri, Chueri -
Brasil - Libano - Familia Merege (or Merhege- 90 members) and another Merhege-(30 Members)     

All of the links above except one are from Shweiry descendants in Brazil posted on one website.  Imagime if we were to add other websites and other countries like N. America, Europe, New Zealand, Australia...  Visit these communities above.  You may find a long lost cousin.  I did.  Hundreds of them.  Remeber, Shweiry means a person from Shweir.  Many of them have other family names when they left Shweir... for example:   Naamatallah Merhege emigrated to Brazil around 1910 his name became Antonio Merege Choueri.  Read more about the three Merhege brothers at:   www.shweir.com/merege.htm  

Now, the children and grand children of those who emigrated long ago, are searching for connection to their roots.  Here is one example:  Familia Choueri "I'm Carolina Choueri. Pedro Merege told me about you.  My great-grandfather called Miguel and his wife called Zebeide.  Do you know somebody with these names?" 

Carolina's Grand dad's last name could be Sawaya, Moujaes, Khnaisser, Merhege, etc.  Key is that Miguel was married to Zebeide.  Do these names ring a bell to someone? 

To pique your interest:  The Shweir.com family is offering $100 reward for most complete information submitted about any of the following: 

1.  Shweir Family Connection for Dr. Klee in Australia.  -  See www.shweir.com/family_tree.htm and  www.shweir.com/australia.htm
2.  Shweir Family Connection for Frankie Goodson -  See www.shweir.com/family_tree.htm
3.  Shweir family connection for Carolina Choueri's grand parents, Miguel (Mikhael) and Zebeide Choueri (see above).
4.  Nicola Shaya Khnaisser (Abu Daoud as of Nahr Abu Daoud, yes, Shakeeb's grand dad) Family tree and connection as it relates to the sub families of Shaya, Eid, Nasr, Abi Nader, Shaheen, ...
5.  Shweir Merhege Family that is related to Deeb & Saada Merhege.  Their daughter Alia used to refer to the mother of Edmon Halabi, owner of ABC, (I believe her name was Maheeba) as her cousin.  Another of Alia's cousins were Mariam Min3em, wife of Ignatious Halabi, John Mirhej, Edward Bou Azar Mirhej.  More info on  www.shweir.com/merege.htm

Brazil: Descendants of Deeb Merhege "Merege" ReUnite after almost 100 Years
Meeting Shweirys in Brazil + Descendants of Merege and Samaha/Tabsharani/Khenaisser meet